David E. Sanger
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 23 Jul
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But I think even the most cynical about how the Iranians and the Americans would interpret it differently did not expect it to fall apart quite as quickly as it did.
And I think if you're trying to figure out why that's happened, it basically lies in the fact that it was so hastily pieced together.
It was so hastily announced when Vice President Vance was sent over to sign a document.
He wouldn't even shake hands with the Iranians and they wouldn't shake hands with him.
Mm-hmm.
It was bound to fail.
That's right, Rachel.
And we were all pretty focused at the time on what needed to be accomplished in this 60-day-long negotiation.
The first issue, of course, was the nuclear program, on which the 14-point statement only said that Iran would blend down its nuclear material, essentially dilute it so that it couldn't be used for weapons.
But it left unclear who was going to ultimately have possession of that nuclear material.
or whether there would be negotiations to limit Iran's missile program, or whether there would be any language in a permanent agreement that would benefit the protesters who have taken to the streets.
But while we were looking at all of that, Rachel,
Fact of the matter is, we never even got to that negotiation.
There were some brief discussions, but what overwhelmed the entire thing was poor wording on the question of what it even meant to open the Strait of Hormuz.
Well, Rachel, the controversy really focuses on the meaning of the fifth paragraph of this very short agreement.
Do you want to read us?
Yeah, I'll just read it to you.
It says, Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa.
It's a single sentence.
Seems pretty clear, but there are some wiggle words in it.
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