David Enrich
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And then there's a victim's name redacted.
She spent hours at my house with him.
He has never once been mentioned.
Ghislaine Maxwell responds, I have been thinking about that.
And Trump at this point is a reality TV star in 2011 who has these vague and kind of unrealistic presidential ambitions.
But it's a little unclear why at that point Epstein thought that the information he had on Trump was relevant.
And so we are all left wondering exactly what this means.
As best we can tell, yes, that is right.
Epstein appears to believe that he has some information on Trump that has not yet become public and that could be useful to Epstein.
Yes, that's right.
So the next email is from December of 2015, and it's between Epstein and a journalist named Michael Wolff, who is quite a prominent journalist who had clearly spent a lot of time with Epstein.
And this takes place right as CNN is planning to air a debate involving the Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.
And Wolf, he says he hears that CNN is going to ask Trump about his relationship with Epstein.
Epstein then responds, if we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be?
Wolf then responds to that in a very telling way, which is, I think you should let him hang himself.
If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency.
You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you.
Or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt.
And so he's floating this idea that Epstein has enough of the kind of the goods on Donald Trump that he can almost cultivate him as someone who's in his debt and that he can then presumably cash that debt in at a relevant point in the future.
This is not the way that journalists traditionally operate.