David Epstein

In my first book in the sports gene, I took a trip to Arctic Sweden that I cut from the book.

Right.

And if I had done a little more thing, I mean, the trip was super interesting.

I don't, I'm not that I regret having taken it, but.

That's a tough thing to cut.

And so I think had I put in a little more thought, if I had understood what the book would look like, if I had done the press release, I would have realized that this was not going to fit.

And that'd be so different from what I'm used to too.

So I think it would be interesting.

Like, cause some, there's some writers that write books.

I'm not one of them.

Every great person.

I mean, certainly resilience, right?

Certainly resilience.

There's no, no matter how good you are, like everyone faces some setback that I think they would have considered devastating or unimaginable at some point and they have to pick themselves back up.

And I think that often is because there's something in the process that they love, not only the goal.

So I think that's true about every great person.

Because I was going to say curiosity.

And I think that's about getting curiosity about yourself, about getting better, about getting others.

And I think that's very common.

But I wouldn't say that's true to every great person.