David Frum

Oh, he's also one of the most popular writers and speakers in the entire English-speaking world with a career that spans many decades at every distinguished institution.

I was a colleague of his at the Weekly Standard in the 1990s, but you probably know him from his role at the New York Times as one of the most influential newspaper columnists in America for more than two decades, from his appearances on PBS and NPR, or you may have seen one of his innumerable appearances on public platforms where he delights audiences with

in every state of this country and every country of the world, it seems.

He is an indefatigable writer.

He is the author of more books than I can even tally.

all of which have gone on to enormous success.

Most recently is the 2023 book, How to Know a Person, The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen.

And I'm just so grateful he has taken time away from his whirligig activities to join me today on the David Frum Show.

That's true.

That's true.

And you went off to glory at the Wall Street Journal Europe, where you covered the 89 uprisings, terrifying your grandmother.

But you had a wonderful line, I remember this, that she called you in Brussels and said, but David, what if the revolution spreads?

I want to talk to you about your recent article for The Atlantic that appeared online in December and then in the print edition in January called The Neocons Were Right.

I think a lot of people are used to hearing this term used as a kind of shorthand in politics or politics.

conspiracy theory, but maybe some of us don't know exactly what the term means.

So could you explain what a neoconservative is or was and why it mattered once upon a time and now?

But the distance in time from the 1960s to us is the same as the distance in time from when these people were young in the 1930s to reconstruction.

So did I just do that math right?

Yeah, it's 60 years.

So why would you write a magazine article in 2026 saying these people who were active from 1930-something to 1960-something were right about anything to do with us?