David Frum in Podcasts

It's interesting. Exactly on that point. It's interesting. David Frum, the American intellectual who used to be thought of as a neoconservative. I don't know if he'd still think of himself as that. Certainly a very trenchant critic of Donald Trump has this wonderful line. I think it's from him where he says, if liberals don't enforce borders, fascists will. Absolutely right. I mean, that is from him. I certainly think he's no longer a neoconservative by a long way.

He would not be an unbiased person. So do you remember what the wrap-up smear is? Nancy Pelosi explained it. So you give the story to somebody in another publication, like The Atlantic, and then that gives all the other networks a reason to talk about it. all right, did you see this article in The Atlantic? David Frum has this article in The Atlantic. Can you respond to it?