David Frum

What guidance would you draw from these old texts?

I didn't say – I'm not throwing them out the window.

Lustrate means – no, I'm serious.

Okay, I'm serious.

What should happen – Jeanine Pirro, a U.S.

attorney for the District of Columbia who just –

who's leading the charge to bring these utterly ridiculous criminal charges against the head of the Federal Reserve to destroy the independence of the Federal Reserve and subordinate monetary policy to Trump's election needs?

What should happen to her?

You make a very compelling case.

And as so often, you're almost certainly right.

But let me just keep thinking.

One of the teachings of the neoconservative world was that these moral beliefs matter, that culture matters.

And they were very impatient with social scientists said, no, what matters are deep structures of wealth and power.

They didn't like that way of thinking.

But deep structures of wealth and power do often matter.

And so after Trump leaves office, it will still be true that the people who became corrupt billionaires under Trump will remain corrupt billionaires with all the political power.

that that entails, including, by the way, Trump's children who have made a corrupt fortune in the single year of his first year of his presidency through these cryptocurrency operations they're running, which are valid, which have

left every purchaser losing 95 of their money but have left the sellers very rich that is not just wealth that's power the changes in the media landscape that have concentrated informational power in the hands of people who are beholden to the trump administration whether it's the social media companies or the new conglomerates in what we used to call television i don't know we'll call it go on those will still remain

The changes that have happened inside the Republican Party, those will remain.

I don't know that people talk about doing something about these ICE recruits, but they're still going to remain probably government employees with this rogue police force that doesn't seem to answer to any kind of, that's all going to be there.