David Frum

but a question that is going to dominate our politics for the three remaining years of the Trump presidency and through this election year of 2026, when people will once again get a chance to say, we resent these prices.

We resent the deliberate policy to make the prices go up.

We resent being lied to.

We want something different.

We want to change.

And now my dialogue with Fiona Hill.

But first, a quick break.

Fiona Hill has served three presidents as a deep expert on Russian affairs and Eurasia broadly.

Born in the United Kingdom, educated at Harvard and St.

Andrews University in Scotland, she is now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and Chancellor of Durham University in Great Britain.

In 2021, she published a memoir, There Is Nothing For You Here, about her upbringing in England's former coal country.

Fiona Hill is best known for her courageous integrity during and honest testimony about President Trump's attempt to extort Ukraine for his personal political advantage in his first presidential term.

In this moment of global crisis, I am one of many who turns to Fiona Hill for insight and guidance.

Fiona, thank you so much for joining me today.

So let's start by looking at the world from the other side of the board, from Vladimir Putin's point of view.

You know, spent a lot of time thinking about how he thinks, what he's thinking about, the way he's different and surprising from an American point of view.

How does the world look to him?

Ukraine, the pending crisis in NATO, but he's taken some blows in Iran and Venezuela.

How does the world map look from his point of view?

As you and I speak, we have troops from NATO countries, including, of course, Denmark, but some of its Scandinavian partners, France, the UK, on their way to Greenland.