David Frum
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in charge of world safety.
Because if the United States is not, either there won't be world safety or China and India will do it.
And I don't want to live in that planet.
And I don't want that planet for my children.
And maybe the twice election of Trump means, I mean, I come at this again from a Canadian point of view, where I sometimes, we look at the United States as outsiders, but we also maybe have more admiration and trust in the United States and a more idealized version.
But the America I believe in, and maybe I'm just a fossil.
And when I shuffle off the stage, this view goes with me.
I still believe in the mission of the United States.
I still believe in the capacity of the United States.
And yes, the two elections of Trump challenged my view of the ultimate
value of the American experiment a lot, but I'm not giving that up.
And so I still want to live in that unipolar American-led world order that rallies like-minded countries to meet the challenge from China that tries to recruit India into that order, difficult as that project is.
And this is part of it.
And so what I hope will happen, and again, this is maybe more fanciful than your idea of stopping the war, is that there are enough Republican senators who behind the scenes will work with
enough Democratic senators behind the scenes and Democratic members of the House to say to President Trump, you have to put a responsible person in DHS.
You have to replace the head of the FBI.
If Hegseth wants to keep his job, let him keep his job.
But let's make sure there's someone who's doing the job who isn't Hegseth because he's a meathead.
And let's have some real people and let's have achievable aims and let us apologize to all our friends in Europe.
And let's try to build the coalition