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David Frum

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The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Yeah, I didn't use the word incompetence.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

I talked about lack of understanding of Iranian society.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Because let me test a hypothesis on you.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

which is phase one.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Let's suppose the military objectives, military track of this war is going well, that the United States and Israel are destroying the things they wanted to destroy.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

They obviously are having great success finding the people they want to find and eliminating them from the chessboard.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Maybe the mistake was a lack of understanding, a lack of study of the American side of the equation.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

When beginning in 19, whenever the serious study of the Iran, of Iran, Iran war began in 1979, 80, the assumption I would guess would be that Iran would have done something really bad, capture American hostages and detain them for a year and under horrible conditions or something else really bad.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And the president would go on TV and explain to the American people why the United States was going to war with Iran.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

He'd go to Congress and get a vote from Congress.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Congress would give it because Iran had done something bad.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And then there would be a month-long air campaign followed by whatever phase two was.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And everyone would understand.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

You're fighting in the Middle East.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

In the Persian Gulf, there's going to be economic hardship.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And we would all bear it because Iran had done something so very, very bad.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

mistake here was what if there was no reason to go to war that week and the american people's pain threshold was literally zero so none of the obvious moves that iran would do closing the straits interfering with the price of with the shipping oil none of them was there any appetite for in the united states and the united states then had to conduct whatever phases of this war there are

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

Without any ability to take not only casualties, but even any economic hardship.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

That may be the missing piece.

The David Frum Show
Watching War From the Strait of Hormuz

And that's not the fault of the war gamers, because they all assumed, right, the reason the president gave us the go order was something bad had happened that we had to respond to.