David Frum
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President Trump has invoked war powers to justify his stupid tariffs.
And the Supreme Court said, emergency powers, I should say.
And the Supreme Court correctly, in my opinion, said, there's no emergency.
You don't have these powers.
You can't oppose the tariffs.
But this is a real shooting war.
There's no question.
This is a war.
Powers come with that.
If anybody else were president right now, I think you and I would agree the president needs a broader range of powers to bring the war to a successful conclusion, achieve American aims, protect American lives, protect allied lives.
But you know he's going to make, you know, you fear he will make wicked use of those powers.
Let me invoke people I know and I think you know who I know what they're saying and thinking.
And I don't know how many people in the listenership or viewership will agree with this point of view, but it's a point of view that is important in my social and personal circle and maybe, Tom, in yours.
So here's the steel man.
David, everything you say about Trump, true.
Got it.
Don't disagree with you.
But Iran has been a lethal danger to Americans since 1979.
One atrocity after another, unceasing aggression, unceasing repression at home.
Past presidents have all agreed something needed to be done, but nobody knew what to do.