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David George

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

But I think the open ended upside of what companies can capture in economics from that is spinless in size.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

I like to look at history of consumer Internet companies and what were our perceptions and then what actually ended up happening there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So I think it's instructive to look back at Facebook and Google.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And I remember when we were in the private markets looking at investments and things like Snap and Twitter 10 plus years ago, and we would always sit and say, well, yeah, but Facebook and Google only monetize at X certain amount.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And all the consumer internet businesses are P times Q businesses.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And quantity has ended up being billions of users, two and a half billion users or more in each case.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

But we always said, oh, Facebook or Google, they make 20 bucks a user.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So that's the upper bound.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And fast forward 10 years later, and Facebook and Google make 200 bucks a user and

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

in the developed world.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So when we look at things like ChatGPT, it's really fun to think about this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

It's like, okay, how much time do people spend?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

What value do they get?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

How much consumer surplus is there?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And how do we think about valuing that?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And it's pretty open-ended, which is really exciting right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

So the really interesting thing is if you look at ChatGPT and the consumer stuff, there's like a billion users.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

They monetize less than 50 million of them.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

And how will they monetize the rest?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
David George - Building a16z Growth, Investing Across the AI Stack, and Why Markets Misprice Growth - [Invest Like the Best, EP.450]

That's a really fun problem to try to tackle.