David Gillick

And then Sunday, dreaded Mondays.

Absolutely dreaded.

So Sunday was a dark day.

And then in late 2015, Charlotte was pregnant, like eight months pregnant, heavily pregnant.

And I can remember just like,

Just having a bit of a, I suppose now you kind of term it like a panic attack, but it was just pure frustration and anger and just, I was ranting and raving and yeah, it was probably a panic attack, you know, it just, just the world just seemed to kind of cave in.

And that's when like Charlotte was at the kitchen table, like heavily pregnant in floods of tears.

And that's when I just... It just hit me.

It just hit me and I was like, what am I doing?

Like, how am I going to bring a baby into this world and be a good parent?

You know, I need to help myself.

And, you know, how am I going to be a good husband and dad and all the rest of it?

So that's when, like, I reached out.

That's when I made a phone call to... I won't mention him, but it was someone who had a kind of similar journey, you know?

And...

I was at a talk and he spoke.

And I remember just sitting there kind of going like, oh my God, like everything he's saying resonates.

And I obviously knew him.

So I rang him and he just, yeah, come on down for a cup of tea.

Richie Sadler.