David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

They're coming up to this incredibly fast corner.

It's very dangerous.

And Alonzo basically accounts, I was going to make the pass because I knew he had a wife and kids at home.

Just absolutely, right?

Wow.

I knew he valued life more than I did.

So there's a bit of poker sometimes in that.

Who's going to yield?

There's a bit of chicken race in that regard.

And sometimes it doesn't work.

No one yields and you both crash.

But very often one person will blink first.

You can pass wherever you want as long as you have just a slight part of the car on the racetrack.

Yes.

And even before him, by the time, I mean, he died in the 90s, but by the time we got to the 90s, racing was already a lot safer than it was when Niki Lauda raced in the 60s.

That level of danger is no longer there.

There's still just a remnant of it, and it is still dangerous, but nothing like that.

And it's a little hard to compare through the ages, like who's the greatest driver of all time.

I think there's a fair argument that Senna is, but we don't have the data.

We don't know who he was up against.