David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

That model already exists.

It's commercial software.

It works very well, and plenty of great companies have been built off the back of it, and the expectations are very clear.

I pay you this amount and I get this software.

Open source, once you start mixing money into it, gets real muddy real fast.

And a lot of it is just from those misaligned expectations.

That if you feel like you're starving artists as an open source developer and you are owed X amount of money because your software is popular,

you're delusional and you need to knock that off.

Just get back on track where you realize that you're putting gifts into the world.

And if you get something back in terms of monetary compensation, okay, that's a bonus.

But if you need that money back in terms of monetary compensation, you should just charge for software or go work for a software company that will employ you to open source.

There's tons of that.

That is probably actually the primary mode that open source software is being developed in the world today.

Commercial companies are,

making open source that they need themselves and then contributing it back.

First, I echo what you said about what a wonderful thing it is that WordPress exists.

There are not many projects in the open source world or in the world at large that has had as big of an impact on the internet as WordPress has.

He deserves a ton of accolades for that work.

So that was my engagement, essentially, my premise.

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