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David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4269 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

It tapped out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

This is what's so hard about predicting the future.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

We can be so excited in the moment because we're drawing a line through early dots on a chart.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And it looks like those early dots are just going up and to the right.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And sometimes they just flatten out.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

This is also one of those things where we have so much critical infrastructure, for example, that still runs on COBOL, that about five humans around the world really understand truly, deeply, that it's possible for society to lose a competence it still needs because it's chasing the future.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

COBOL is still with us.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

This is one of the things I think about with programming.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Ruby on Rails is at such a level now that in 50 years from now, it's exceedingly likely that there's still a ton of Ruby on Rails systems running around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Now, very hard to predict what that exact world is going to be like, but yesterday's weather tells us that if there's still COBOL code from the 70s operating Social Security today, and we haven't figured out a clean way to convert that, let alone understand it, we should certainly be...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

humble about predicting the future.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

I don't think any of the programmers who wrote that COBOL code back in the 70s had any damn idea that in 2025 checks were still being cut off the business logic that they had encoded back then.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

But that just brings me to the conclusion on the question for what should a young programmer do?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

You're not going to be able to predict the future.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

No one's going to be able to predict the future.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

If you like programming, you should learn programming.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Now, is that going to be a career forever?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

I don't know.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

But what's going to be a career forever?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Who knows?