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David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

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4269 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And that's more important.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

It's more important that you work under and with someone who's better at your job than you are if you wish to progress in your career.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And every single programmer I've ever worked with was far more interested in progressing in their career on that metric, getting better at their craft, than they were in picking up pointers that a middle manager could teach them.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

That's not saying that there isn't value in it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

It's not saying there isn't value in being a better person or a better communicator.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Of course, there is all those things.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

But if I have to choose one or the other, I value competence higher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Like that's, again...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

I caveat this a million times because I know what people sometimes hear.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

They hear the genius asshole is just fine and that's great and you should excuse all sorts of malicious behavior if someone's just really good at what they do.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

I'm not saying that at all.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

What I am saying is that the history of competence is a history of learning from people who are better than you.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And that relationship should take precedence over all else.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

And that relationship gets put aside a bit when engineering managers are introduced.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Now, the funny thing is, this conversation ties back to the earlier things we were talking about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Most engineering managers are actually former programmers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

They at least know programming to some extent.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

But what I've seen time and again is that they lose their touch, their feel with it very, very quickly and turn into pointy-haired bosses very, very quickly who are really good at checking for updates, just seeing where we are on Project A here, if you need anything or we're ready to deliver to you.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Yes, and also, no, just shut up.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#474 โ€“ DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting

Leave me the hell alone.