David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

No one is going to give us this multiple of this amount of revenue.

And that's fine.

I mean, we took the call essentially out of...

kind of an awe that Jeff Bezos even wanted to look at us and like, do you know what?

We don't want venture capital.

We don't need other people's money, but like, let's just give him a bullshit number.

The no sane person would actually say yes to.

And then, I mean, we can, we can each go our own way.

And his investment team said like, Jeff, no way.

This makes no economic sense at all.

They're asking for way too much money with way too little revenue.

And Jeff just went like, I don't care.

I want to invest in this guy because to him at the time it was chump change.

Right.

Like Jason and I each got a few million dollars.

I mean, whatever the currency swing between the yen and the dollar that day probably moved 10x that for his network than our investment did.

Jeff seemed genuinely interested in being around interesting people, interesting companies, helping someone go to distance.

And...

I actually look back on that relationship with some degree of regret because I took that vote of confidence for granted in ways that I'm a little bit ashamed of over the years.

I've been more critical about some of the things that Amazon had done that I feel now is sort of justified.