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Bankless Nation, we are here with Jasmine Sun.

She writes about AI, technology and politics.

She is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and recently has a New York Times opinion piece on AI and the permanent underclass, a phrase we are all too familiar with here in the world of crypto.

She's also the AI of the AI populism series on her sub-sack, jasmine.news.

Jasmine, welcome to Bankless.

Jasmine, you put together a definition for AI populism.

You wrote it, a worldview in which AI is viewed not only as a normal technology, but as an elite political project to be resisted.

This is really what we want to explore here with you today on the show.

Kind of want to ask the question, and maybe we can start with this.

How big is AI populism as a political issue domestically here in the United States?

And we kind of want to get to, do we think AI populism will be a relevant issue in the 2028 election?

So maybe we can start with that first question.

Just how big do you think AI populism is in the world of politics?

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