David Hoffman

Most notably is kind of money.

And that, you know, Bitcoin doing that, money, the idea of payments, that sort of thing.

Ethereum sort of expanded a little bit on that money vision with decentralized finance, but that's still finance.

It's still to do with money.

Recently, Vitalik has been talking more and trying to resurrect the whole Web3 thing, I would say.

Maybe not using that term, but the idea of a decentralized parallel internet where you have storage,

and you have completely decentralized compute.

How far do you think the crypto cypherpunk vision goes?

Because there are some, I think, in the space who would say, hey, the main thing that crypto does, it's a ledger.

It's about money.

It's about debits and credits.

Maybe you can extend that to DeFi, but it just sort of stops there.

There are others that still believe in this cypherpunk expansive universe of decentralized identity and compute and storage.

And almost a parallel internet where we can get out of kind of the Silicon Valley tech cabal that's ruling our lives and maybe something around decentralized AI.

How far do you think this vision goes in crypto?

I'm with you.

I get it.

And then I suppose like maybe the CIA or whatever three-letter agency would appear in that in one of the boxes too if they were listening in.

It's great.

It's great.