David Hoffman

But

Hard to codify that into a game.

When we have the allegory of the cave, hard to make your fingers bend in the right way to make that show up on the wall.

That's particularly hard to make show up on the wall.

But we can make the points around calories and protein and fats.

Those can show up on the wall pretty well.

And then downstream of that,

society orients itself around that reality.

And same thing with like, I think when we were talking about social media, like pretty easy to orient society around which tweet goes viral versus which tweet has the most amount of meaning.

And so like one of the downstream effects of what your book was talking about, the downstream effects of like a really well

produced social structure call it a game is like it's actually very easy to get a lot of people in line with these types of points or these types of optimized outcomes and like you know honestly frankly a lot of society probably appreciates that even though we might call these people sheeple including including myself

Sometimes I just don't want to think about how to escape the cave and think for myself on a wide variety of topics.

I really want to outsource my thinking.

But then there's other parts of society where I actually do want to escape the cave.

For us, for Bankless, it's about personal finance and don't live under the shadow of the banks.

Don't let the banks be the puppet masters.

Yeah.

But like, I don't know if it's totally socially scalable for everyone to be out of the cave amongst all possible subjects.

And for everything else, there's a game.

For everything else, there's a game.