David Kipping

And so by analogy, we've seen this so many times in astronomy, the first thing we detect, the first example of something we detect is often not typical.

It's often that loud asshole version of the thing.

And so maybe the first civilization we detect will be like that.

If they were on their deathbed, they're about to nuke each other to hell, they have a good motivation to reach out to us because they've got nothing to lose.

We might be worried right now because maybe we could see we've got a future ahead of us, but if you think this is it, I'm done, what have you got to lose?

You may as well send a message out saying, hey, we were here.

This is our shit.

Please help us if you can because we're about to go to hell.

Well, the Starshot thing, I remember some team members talked about that.

I was in some of the meetings and they said, maybe we should like lace human DNA into the sail.

So when it hits this planet, at least our DNA, because it's looking grim here.

At least then there's like a seed of us.

Yeah, I love seeing them.

They're so cool.

The Museum of Natural History has this awesome exhibit.

And you can just see them crawling all across the museum.

And, yeah, my kids and I were just like, yeah.

What you're describing is actually kind of similar to, there's a guy called Robin Hanson, an economist, and he has this idea called loud aliens, grabby aliens, and he says the thing we do

as an intelligent species, is transform our environment.

We're not subtle.