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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2363 - David Kipping

09 Aug 2025

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David Kipping is an astronomer and associate professor at Columbia University, where he leads the Cool Worlds lab.  www.coolworldslab.com Get anything delivered on Uber Eats. https://ubereats.com Take 50% off a SimpliSafe system at https://simplisafe.com/ROGAN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The Joe Rogan Experience.

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6.247 - 24.542 Joe Rogan

Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. We're up. What's up, man? How are you? Pleasure to meet you, sir. Pleasure to be here. Thanks, Jay. I really enjoy your content online. It's been really fascinating. So I've been doing a deep dive into a lot of your videos over the last few days and enjoying the hell out of it.

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24.723 - 34.982 Joe Rogan

And particularly enjoying... I wanted to talk to you about so many different things. But one of the most pressing things, one of the reasons why I wanted to bring you in, because you are very knowledgeable in all things space...

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34.962 - 63.412 Joe Rogan

is the James Webb's telescope and all the different stuff that they've been finding, particularly about these galaxies that were formed very shortly after, not shortly, not within our lifetime shortly, but cosmologically shortly after the Big Bang. That it seems like we have to figure out why these things are forming. Is the universe older? There's all this different kind of speculation.

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63.432 - 70.868 Joe Rogan

Maybe the Big Bang is not 13 point whatever billion years old, but maybe 22, 24. Like what? What is your take on all this?

71.289 - 93.953 David Kipping

Yeah, the James Webb Space Telescope is such an incredible instrument. The data has just blown us away. You know, when you build this thing and you look at it unfolding in space, you think there's so many ways it could go wrong that we all were just like, you know, this thing was 215 moving parts or something had to unfold. In space? Yeah. The fact it just all worked was just remarkable.

94.393 - 110.177 David Kipping

And then when we got those first images, they just kind of blew us away as well, because we had sort of these engineering expectations of what it would do, but the data was just even better than that. Of course, the first thing you want to do is point it to the most distant part of the universe and see what's out there in those darkest patches.

110.157 - 125.08 David Kipping

And so when it did that, yeah, it started finding a couple of things. It started finding quasars, which are kind of the center of these very active galaxies. These are supermassive black holes that have loads of crap falling in, and they're spewing out all this energy. They're kind of feeding supermassive black holes.

125.54 - 136.637 David Kipping

And so we started detecting those way earlier than we thought the universe should be able to build them. Because to make a supermassive black hole, I mean, these things are like 100 million solar masses, right?

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