David Kipping

I'm always looking out for it.

Of course.

I'm like, man, everyone else seems to have seen these things.

How come I've not seen one?

I'm the alien guy.

This doesn't make sense.

That shifted the Overton window.

Yes.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah.

I mean, that's actually made, to be honest, that's made the kind of stuff we do, the SETI work we do.

So SETI, Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, we've kind of rebranded it these days as technosignatures.

But that used to be the sort of thing that Congress would always ding and be like, you can't do that.

You can't have taxpayer money going to Lincoln Frailings.

That's ridiculous.

But ever since, you know, the UFO, the UAP phenomena really caught on, the Overton window has shifted.

And now what we do seems completely like, if anything, like too traditional and too, you know, we're too conservative in our approaches compared to what other people want to do.

He's trying to do Project Galileo, right, to actually look for UFOs in the atmosphere and stuff.

And I think it's a valid point.

You can't say that looking for aliens on an exoplanet is good science, but looking for aliens in the atmosphere is not science.