David Kipping

But I mean, it's hard because you became like the top podcast and because there's competition and that competition probably drove you to make the podcast better and better and better.

And similarly, as a scientist, we're in competition with each other.

So there's almost a capitalist system embedded into science that I want to not like crush my enemy or something.

I'm not trying to crush the other scientists, but I certainly have.

I know what the level field is.

And if you want to stand out, you have to.

bad above that level.

And so that drives me to become... I'm definitely influenced by competition.

I feed off it.

And it makes me a better scientist when I know someone's breathing down my neck at my data.

I'm like, that's it.

Let's just crank out the hours.

We're going to do the best we can.

But if I know no one's looking at my data set, and I've got three years to myself, I'm just going to chill.

I'm just going to be like, there's no urgency here.

Let's think about other things.

Let's do other stuff.

So that...

that competition like you said it's really double-edged and i don't know we need to figure out a way to to channel it because um you know i did martial arts as a kid a lot and one of the things i really do with style i did taekwondo i did a bit of muay thai um and i did some shotokan karate but mostly taekwondo and i learned a lot from that and just mentally about myself

I really want my kids to do martial arts because I feel like it's just a transformative experience for learning how to master yourself.