David Ko

So you know how to talk about it now, where I didn't know how to talk about it then. And so I do think so much of the population today is about powering through it. And I do think a lot of the population, and I would say more in countries like Korea or Asia, even though mental health is the most approachable it's ever been, like in the States, it's not really approachable there.

So you know how to talk about it now, where I didn't know how to talk about it then. And so I do think so much of the population today is about powering through it. And I do think a lot of the population, and I would say more in countries like Korea or Asia, even though mental health is the most approachable it's ever been, like in the States, it's not really approachable there.

And that does make me sad at times when I go back home. My parents moved back to Korea. They live there. I want to talk about these things with them. And it's just not easy for them to talk about, right? I don't know how it was for you. Did you talk about this when you were a kid?

And that does make me sad at times when I go back home. My parents moved back to Korea. They live there. I want to talk about these things with them. And it's just not easy for them to talk about, right? I don't know how it was for you. Did you talk about this when you were a kid?

Good for you. I wish I had done that.

Good for you. I wish I had done that.

Mm-hmm. I mean, you forget that, right? You forget that. You just forget it. I mean, you think about those numbers. Whether it's two-thirds or one-third of all people feeling this way, and you start to realize, well, that's heavy. And if you were in a room and three out of 10 or six out of 10 are feeling a certain way, you start to realize there's more.

Mm-hmm. I mean, you forget that, right? You forget that. You just forget it. I mean, you think about those numbers. Whether it's two-thirds or one-third of all people feeling this way, and you start to realize, well, that's heavy. And if you were in a room and three out of 10 or six out of 10 are feeling a certain way, you start to realize there's more.

This is why with corporations, I think it's so important that they can take leadership positions.

This is why with corporations, I think it's so important that they can take leadership positions.

Again, I always go back to the top on some of these things because if we're not comfortable being vulnerable, and if we're not comfortable making sure that our HR teams have the tools to talk about this with employees, that we don't support some of these initiatives. We're kind of in a place where we're saying, oh, we don't believe some of those stats, but the stats are there and growing, right?

Again, I always go back to the top on some of these things because if we're not comfortable being vulnerable, and if we're not comfortable making sure that our HR teams have the tools to talk about this with employees, that we don't support some of these initiatives. We're kind of in a place where we're saying, oh, we don't believe some of those stats, but the stats are there and growing, right?

And yes, there's life things that are happening, but technology is moving so fast on the other side, right? I mean, we are definitely in an era right now where kids have grown up with their smartphones. They act differently than when I grew up or when you grew up. It's just different, right? And they grew up with this technology. They're very comfortable with it, the speed of it, which is coming.

And yes, there's life things that are happening, but technology is moving so fast on the other side, right? I mean, we are definitely in an era right now where kids have grown up with their smartphones. They act differently than when I grew up or when you grew up. It's just different, right? And they grew up with this technology. They're very comfortable with it, the speed of it, which is coming.

And then there's the weight of what's happening just in life around them. And so some of these things, even at the company level, which are interesting, and you don't do this, is like, and I found this a little bit with myself, I'll just tell you on a personal front, we're taught to play it very safe. And I think that's an important thing too.

And then there's the weight of what's happening just in life around them. And so some of these things, even at the company level, which are interesting, and you don't do this, is like, and I found this a little bit with myself, I'll just tell you on a personal front, we're taught to play it very safe. And I think that's an important thing too.

I'll tell you a lot of people miss is that, you know, you don't want to say the wrong thing. So you're not going to talk about your own vulnerability because that's not playing it down the fairway. You kind of want to be boring. I'll be frank with you for a lot of leaders, not all leaders, which we know there's a couple of them that are quite, but for most leaders, when you go out there,

I'll tell you a lot of people miss is that, you know, you don't want to say the wrong thing. So you're not going to talk about your own vulnerability because that's not playing it down the fairway. You kind of want to be boring. I'll be frank with you for a lot of leaders, not all leaders, which we know there's a couple of them that are quite, but for most leaders, when you go out there,

They're media trained to be right down the fairway. And what I love when I listen and watch your podcast, it's so authentic. It's so real. It's so safe for all the people that listen. And then, and it just shows, right? With how many people are tuning in every day, right? And listening to you and doing what I did. It's like, I'll listen to somebody and then I'll go back to that.

They're media trained to be right down the fairway. And what I love when I listen and watch your podcast, it's so authentic. It's so real. It's so safe for all the people that listen. And then, and it just shows, right? With how many people are tuning in every day, right? And listening to you and doing what I did. It's like, I'll listen to somebody and then I'll go back to that.