David Ko

I'll be like, oh, I remembered that. I'm going to go back to that. And it's just because we just play it safe in a lot of places today. And you don't want to say the wrong thing. And I think it's okay. Even if I was here with you today and maybe something, and I didn't say the right thing today, I'm in a space where I feel so safe with you right now.

I'll be like, oh, I remembered that. I'm going to go back to that. And it's just because we just play it safe in a lot of places today. And you don't want to say the wrong thing. And I think it's okay. Even if I was here with you today and maybe something, and I didn't say the right thing today, I'm in a space where I feel so safe with you right now.

I just want to be myself and not everything's going to be perfect. Absolutely. Right? And that's kind of part of life. And I've started to accept that. And I've become much more vulnerable with my own employees to be like, hey, this is okay. And because of that, in the last couple of years, we're stronger. We're stronger as a company.

I just want to be myself and not everything's going to be perfect. Absolutely. Right? And that's kind of part of life. And I've started to accept that. And I've become much more vulnerable with my own employees to be like, hey, this is okay. And because of that, in the last couple of years, we're stronger. We're stronger as a company.

We just had a board meeting and they're like, wow, this is great. Everyone's like, yes, we're doing much better. But I think because we're developing and really building on the right culture, we're asking the right questions and we want to lead by example.

We just had a board meeting and they're like, wow, this is great. Everyone's like, yes, we're doing much better. But I think because we're developing and really building on the right culture, we're asking the right questions and we want to lead by example.

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Yeah, in the last one that you were at, I did talk about my smoking as a kid. I talked about me being overweight as a child, dealing with that, that insecurity. I've always had a struggle with food. I love French fries. I'm just going to, I guess I'm telling, I love ice cream. And I think sometimes, and I have a really, no matter what I try to do diet wise.

Yeah, in the last one that you were at, I did talk about my smoking as a kid. I talked about me being overweight as a child, dealing with that, that insecurity. I've always had a struggle with food. I love French fries. I'm just going to, I guess I'm telling, I love ice cream. And I think sometimes, and I have a really, no matter what I try to do diet wise.

If you put some fries in front of me, I'm going to eat them. If you put some ice cream in front of me and my kids are having, I'm going to eat some of that too. And my kids are like, dad, I thought you're like full. I was like, I was. So I struggle with that. I know when I'm a little bit stressed, I'm a little bit of a binge eater as well.

If you put some fries in front of me, I'm going to eat them. If you put some ice cream in front of me and my kids are having, I'm going to eat some of that too. And my kids are like, dad, I thought you're like full. I was like, I was. So I struggle with that. I know when I'm a little bit stressed, I'm a little bit of a binge eater as well.

I try to obviously develop a lot of healthy habits also around how do you be healthier? And so I do exercise a lot more. But some of those things are hard just to get rid of. You know, it's more like you're going to have to live with it and it's how you live with it. That's like that comment about stress.

I try to obviously develop a lot of healthy habits also around how do you be healthier? And so I do exercise a lot more. But some of those things are hard just to get rid of. You know, it's more like you're going to have to live with it and it's how you live with it. That's like that comment about stress.

You're never going to have a stress-free workplace, but you've got to figure out how you just have more healthy stress, right? How you stress rather than distress.

You're never going to have a stress-free workplace, but you've got to figure out how you just have more healthy stress, right? How you stress rather than distress.

I think a lot of leaders today struggle with, as I spoke to you about vulnerability and how you gave the story about vulnerability, that story plays over and over again. Wow. You know, leaders struggle with how to be vulnerable. And I think it's generational on a personal level. I think the new leaders that are going to rise, the ones in their 20s, are going to have no problem.

I think a lot of leaders today struggle with, as I spoke to you about vulnerability and how you gave the story about vulnerability, that story plays over and over again. Wow. You know, leaders struggle with how to be vulnerable. And I think it's generational on a personal level. I think the new leaders that are going to rise, the ones in their 20s, are going to have no problem.

Because when you look at social media today and a lot of the younger generation, they talk about their mental stress and they talk about their mental health and they're very open about it. Now, again, they may overuse it, but at least they're having a conversation around it. I think with other leaders today, when I talk to them, they're just like, hey, is it a sign of weakness like you brought up?

Because when you look at social media today and a lot of the younger generation, they talk about their mental stress and they talk about their mental health and they're very open about it. Now, again, they may overuse it, but at least they're having a conversation around it. I think with other leaders today, when I talk to them, they're just like, hey, is it a sign of weakness like you brought up?