David Koepp

I do.

You'd have to ask Stephen and Gary Reitstrom, the sound designer, who came up with it together, I'm afraid.

I think so.

You're not always conscious of what you're doing and how you're doing it.

But building the story, I think we certainly trust what is near to us and perhaps smaller and manageable and with someone we know.

Right.

Right.

Somebody's talking about what's happened in Chelsea.

I believe it because I can see they're standing in Chelsea and they know Chelsea.

And so that's my neighborhood.

So I get that.

Right.

The further it goes, the bigger it gets, the bigger the institution, the less we trust it.

And what I think is really interesting about this movie, as a bookend to Close Encounters, the Close Encounters, late 70s, great deal of paranoia is the government, I think the government might be lying to us, we said in the 1970s.

In 2026, we say- Yeah, Watergate set that up for us.

Right.

Nicely, yeah.

And that very much grew out of that.

That was the suspicion they might be lying to us.

Now it's 2026.