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David Kyle Johnson

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The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

It's an interesting flip on the P zombie question, right?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

Yeah.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And then he comes up with a couple of possible reasons, which again have all been stated before.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

He said that it could be an epiphenomenon, not necessary, but just it happens to have emerged out of complex vertebrate neurology.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

Or he could say that maybe you need consciousness in order to really experience pleasure and pain, and therefore, if the experience of positive and negative things is evolutionary adaptive, there needs to be a consciousness experiencing those things.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And then the third one he said was that maybe it was just random.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And in some ecosystems, like on another planet, there might be life that's not conscious.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

On Earth, it happens to be conscious.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

These are two different ways you could solve the behavior problem, and ours just happens to be with consciousness.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

So I wrote about, when I wrote about this exact question previously, most recently in 2017…

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

In addition to the ones that Dawkins came up with, that was one.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

It's like maybe we need consciousness to distinguish a memory from a live experience, because otherwise it's the same parts of the brain lighting up.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

There are some philosophers who think that problem solving could benefit from a consciousness, being conscious of our prior attempts, of being able to imagine things.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

How could you imagine things if you don't have some kind of consciousness?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

I think a big one for me is attention because we are overwhelmed with sensory input and we have to attend to a subset of it.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And how do you separate attention from consciousness?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

That may not be a solvable problem.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

You may need consciousness in order to know what stimulus you need to attend to.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

And beyond that,

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1087 - May 9 2026

Our brains weave all of this cacophony of sensory input into a seamless experience of reality.