David Lee Saylor

But it has the same effect when you're 10 times lower than you're supposed to be.

Interesting.

And sex drive.

It was when I was in.

It's funny, though.

With TBIs, low testosterone and low vitamin D, they just go hand in hand.

Now, when they test your blood levels, and if you're low in vitamin D, they just give you vitamin D. But they're so scared of the...

the optics of putting their operators on testosterone.

And if something goes wrong, like, Oh, he was all roided up on steroids.

And, um, so they, they are really, so instead of just giving me testosterone, cause that's all short on even, even at that time, not as bad as I was when I got out, but, uh, they just give you all these things that will help increase your testosterone, anything, but give you testosterone.

I don't know if it's changed.

I hope it has it cause it needs to.

Yeah.

Culturally, the whole thing's really kind of changed culturally.

I'm 45.

I remember when no man, no matter how big he was, generally would ever tell you he was on testosterone.

But now everyone accepts it.

If you're over 30 or 40 and you're not on testosterone, it's almost odd.

I don't have any problems with any of that.

Well, there's that, and there are also these stigmas on it that just weren't true.