David Marchese

And this is a guy who's saying, let's go. Let's go through.

I mean, maybe the more relevant point is that Nelson Mandela was in jail for opposing a viciously racist apartheid regime.

I mean, maybe the more relevant point is that Nelson Mandela was in jail for opposing a viciously racist apartheid regime.

But again, your quote was, if you ask me to condemn Anders Breivik but adore Nelson Mandela— I'd prefer to condemn them both.

But again, your quote was, if you ask me to condemn Anders Breivik but adore Nelson Mandela— I'd prefer to condemn them both.

What does this have to do with equating Anders Breivik, who shot people on some bizarre deluded mission to rid Norway of Islam with Nelson Mandela?

What does this have to do with equating Anders Breivik, who shot people on some bizarre deluded mission to rid Norway of Islam with Nelson Mandela?

Martin Luther King, nonviolent.

Martin Luther King, nonviolent.

Anyway, the thing is basically like, you know— But you're saying there are historical examples in slave narratives where the freed slaves themselves expressed regret at having been freed. But this to me is another prime example of how you selectively read history because if you read other slave narratives where they talk about the—

Anyway, the thing is basically like, you know— But you're saying there are historical examples in slave narratives where the freed slaves themselves expressed regret at having been freed. But this to me is another prime example of how you selectively read history because if you read other slave narratives where they talk about the—

How does that justify anyone's life more pleasant? Difficult to argue that anyone's life was, including freed slaves.

How does that justify anyone's life more pleasant? Difficult to argue that anyone's life was, including freed slaves.

But are you seriously arguing that the era of slavery was somehow better than

But are you seriously arguing that the era of slavery was somehow better than

But abolition was a necessary step to get through that period towards to make people free.

But abolition was a necessary step to get through that period towards to make people free.

Now, maybe you think, I haven't been red-pilled or whatever, or, you know, I'm not thinking through these issues enough. But I feel like, to me, you call it cartoonish. I call it very morally clear. I can say something like, you know, I think slavery was bad. I'm glad there are no longer enslaved people. And then to hear... You then say, well, you have to look at it from this other perspective.

Now, maybe you think, I haven't been red-pilled or whatever, or, you know, I'm not thinking through these issues enough. But I feel like, to me, you call it cartoonish. I call it very morally clear. I can say something like, you know, I think slavery was bad. I'm glad there are no longer enslaved people. And then to hear... You then say, well, you have to look at it from this other perspective.

You know, this is a one-dimensional view of history. I think, well, that's a—no, I think it's pretty cut and dry. It just is very fascinating to me that your ideas, which strike me as pretty extreme, you know, they were fringe ideas to me that apparently are no longer on the fringe. And that's—I don't know. What do you think that says about conservatism today? Ah.