David Marchese

It's not like a giant special effects movie or a bunch of locations all over the world or something.

It seems like an unusually long time.

Maybe it's not in your business, but what's going on?

I think you were just talking about, in a way, the idea of Lydia's sense of abandon.

That could be sexual abandon, creative abandon, abandon when it comes to drinking or drug use, abandon with relationships.

You know...

I think abandon in one's life is important.

There's sort of a concentric circle or an overlapping circle with transcendence in a certain way.

And I think abandon does require...

some degree of anonymity or you don't want like a voice over here while you're trying to really lose yourself.

And I wonder if given that you're a public figure in some way, if it's hard for you to feel abandoned or have moments of transcendence.

Yeah.

On the whole.

Sorry.

But the way that people who don't know you have a relationship with you, it's a very rare mode of human existence.

So what have you sort of taken away from being one of these few people who can actually like witness what it's like to become a character in a story not of their own making?

Just go with where you were going.

No, you know, sometimes people say, like, I don't think I answered your question, but every answer is revealing in its own way, even if it's not...

The answer to the question I explicitly asked.

No, I was just asking, it's like, you know, you became, at some point you became a character in the tabloids.