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David Marchese

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Okay.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

which I don't remember, but where I wanted to start, I just watched the speech you gave to graduates at Cal State Fullerton.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

This is probably something like 25 years ago.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Going way back.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

And in that speech, you said, artists have the license to go straight up the devil's ass, smile at him, and survive.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

When have you done that?

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Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Have you ever done what you just described?

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Sort of used the world outside?

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Sort of looked at current events to motivate?

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

David Gordon Green, yeah.

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Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

You know, it's interesting when actors talk about the psychological or emotional risks of performance, they often talk about it in the context of darker emotions.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Does it feel risky or difficult to get to the more positive emotions?

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Also, in that Cal State Fullerton speech, something you said that really stuck with me is you talked about a willingness to invite negative reaction to the work, a willingness to be despised or have someone not like the work.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

And you said something along the lines of when somebody has a negative reaction like that, they're not BSing.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

It's a genuine reaction, and that's something that you're striving for.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Right.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

And I think about that a lot, actually.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

Like, if you're only doing something that people like all the time or only have positive reactions to, it's possible you're not taking them on an exciting of enough ride.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

But it does take some courage to be willing to be despised or laughed at or misunderstood.

The Daily
Nicolas Cage Made Himself a Legend. Then He Had to Live With It.

And I wanted to know for you if you have a memory of when you realized that you were willing to elicit that kind of reaction or maybe even were drawn to that kind of reaction.