'The Interview': Wellness Guru Jay Shetty Has Raised Some Doubts. Including His Own.
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From The New York Times, this is The Interview. I'm David Marchese. Jay Shetty is without a doubt a giant in the world of wellness and mental health influencers. His podcast, On Purpose, is incredibly popular, and its related YouTube channel, which features interviews as well as Shetty's video essays about self-improvement, has more than 5 million subscribers. His books, Think Like a Monk and Eight Rules of Love, were both bestsellers. And he's also just launched a production company called Perfect Strangers. Part of Shetty's success has to do with his message. It's a breezy blend of pop psychology and self-help tips overlaid with some reassuring Eastern spirituality. Another part surely has to do with his backstory.
As Shetty tells it, he was a wayward young man who went to a lecture by a monk from the ISKCON movement, better known as the Hare Krishnas, and then decided to change his life and become a monk himself. He eventually left that life behind and became an influencer, determined to, as he's put it, make wisdom go viral. While there's no doubt about Shetty's success, I did find myself with other doubts about him that I wanted to explore. They were partly to do with a 2024 article in The Guardian that raised questions about many aspects of Shetty's public life, including accusations of plagiarism on his platforms early in his career, some allegedly misleading certification information put out by his online life coaching school, and even the extent of his training as a monk.
That's reporting that Shetty and his lawyers have disputed, and which we talked about at length in our conversation. So there are those tensions, and there's also the seeming contradiction of a man who espouses monk-like thinking while now living the glamorous life in LA as a superstar influencer, which turns out to be a tension he's been thinking about too. Here's my conversation with Jay Shetty.
Hey, David. Hi, Jay. How are you? I'm doing really well. I'm doing really well. How was your weekend? It was good. It was mellow. Just stuff with the kids. How about you? Amazing.
Who is Jay Shetty and what is his influence in wellness?
It was Grammys week, so very busy, but fun and enjoyable. So it was good. You know what's funny?
I've been watching so much of your stuff for, honestly, the last six weeks or something like that, really trying to immerse myself. And just yesterday, I watched a video of yours that had a segment about how to have difficult conversations. I thought the most useful part of it was that you talked about being clear about one's own intentions during a conversation. And I think that's a very useful thing. And I feel like my intention with you and with everyone is to just understand as much as I can.
I love that. Well, thank you for sharing that with me. And my intention today is always to try and share myself as authentically as I can.
Good, because I hope I have some hard questions for you. So we'll see how that goes. But, you know, for people who aren't familiar with you and your work, which of your beliefs would you say are most fundamental to what you do as a sort of wellness self-help influencer? What are you fundamentally trying to teach people about?
I wouldn't even say I'm trying to teach. The four things I really am encouraging people to reflect upon are the four most important questions I believe that we all have to answer in life. The first is how do I feel about myself? It's a decision we make every day when we wake up and we look in the mirror. The second is what do I do for work? You know, what do I do with my time?
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Chapters
7 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:47
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Who is Jay Shetty and what is his influence in wellness?
2:47–6:42
3
What led Jay Shetty to become a monk?
6:42–9:38
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What controversies surround Jay Shetty's career?
9:38–13:56
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How does Jay Shetty reconcile his monk-like principles with being an influencer?
13:56–19:56
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What are the four fundamental questions Jay Shetty believes everyone should reflect on?
19:56–32:15
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How does Jay Shetty define success and spirituality?
32:15–44:41