David Marchese

Presumably that applies to podcasts also, right?

So like a Joe Rogan or an Andrew Schultz.

See, I'm not sure it applies to that.

But why not?

Like, those are performers, and the podcast is a performance.

Yeah, no, I'm even trying to understand exactly like...

how those distinctions make a difference.

Like, you know, I don't know what, say, I'm just going to pick a comedian who I think thinks of what he does as expressing honesty and truth.

You know, if you talk to someone like a... If you were to ask someone like a Dave Chappelle, are you talking honestly to your audience?

I think he would say, well, yeah, that's what I do and that's what comedians do.

And you're saying that's not... You don't think he would?

Yeah.

But it's also interesting because I think you're saying that sort of the flip side or sort of the negative repercussions of the legacy of the alternative comedy was that its emphasis on authenticity or seeming authenticity led people to almost give too much credence to what comedians were saying in a way that led to this line blurring and led to some...

sort of like censoriousness in a way that's damaging to comedy.

That's interesting.

You know, there's sort of like a holistic observation I want to make about the conversation so far.

And it's one that kind of before the camera started rolling, before we hit record, you yourself actually kind of alluded to.

I think you said, you know, sorry if I was being negative or something earlier.

But sort of thinking back to what we talked about previously, you know, you talked about how the best times in your life were when your kids were little.

Yeah.