David Marchese

Yes, yes.

Not cool.

The hipster elite and their war on you.

In that book, there are two anecdotes that you mentioned still sort of linger with you.

And one involved a group of kids in the fifth grade.

Yes.

The Sharks.

The Sharks.

Do you want to quickly tell that story?

In that book, you say your experience with this gang of kids is you were banished and you sort of been banished ever since.

And then you also tell a story about a kid named James.

Do you want to tell me about James in kindergarten?

And what do you think happened there?

When I read those two stories, and again, it's because you single both them out as being formative in the book, I thought these stories are about resentment at being rejected.

Yeah.

I wonder how much resentment

And also a desire to preemptively reject before you're rejected drives what you do now and formed your identity.

Because the subtext, all your work, all your, I've really immersed myself in it for a while.

It's all F you to this other group, all of it.

Yeah, it takes two to tango.