David Marchese

I think abandon in one's life is important.

There's sort of a concentric circle or an overlapping circle with transcendence in a certain way.

And I think abandon does require...

some degree of anonymity or you don't want like a voice over here while you're trying to really lose yourself.

And I wonder if given that you're a public figure in some way, if it's hard for you to feel abandoned or have moments of transcendence.

Yeah.

On the whole.

Sorry.

But the way that people who don't know you have a relationship with you, it's a very rare mode of human existence.

So what have you sort of taken away from being one of these few people who can actually like witness what it's like to become a character in a story not of their own making?

Just go with where you were going.

No, you know, sometimes people say, like, I don't think I answered your question, but every answer is revealing in its own way, even if it's not...

The answer to the question I explicitly asked.

No, I was just asking, it's like, you know, you became, at some point you became a character in the tabloids.

Right.

And I was curious about what do you learn from like seeing this character, Kristen Stewart, out in the world, in that world specifically.

Oh, interesting.

And you know it's not you.

It's this character, Kristen Stewart, that has been created.

I said it like, I know you.