David Marchese

The Sharks.

The Sharks.

Do you want to quickly tell that story?

In that book, you say your experience with this gang of kids is you were banished and you sort of been banished ever since.

And then you also tell a story about a kid named James.

Do you want to tell me about James in kindergarten?

And what do you think happened there?

When I read those two stories, and again, it's because you single both them out as being formative in the book, I thought these stories are about resentment at being rejected.

Yeah.

I wonder how much resentment

And also a desire to preemptively reject before you're rejected drives what you do now and formed your identity.

Because the subtext, all your work, all your, I've really immersed myself in it for a while.

It's all F you to this other group, all of it.

Yeah, it takes two to tango.

And do you have long-term ambitions beyond what you're doing now?

Is this what you want to be doing five years from now?

Thank you for taking the time today.

You know, we are speaking a second time.

That's part of the deal.

You can get mad at your publicist.