David Marchese

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I'm David Marchese, and this is The Interview from The New York Times.

From The New York Times, this is The Interview.

I'm David Marchese.

Sean Penn's new movie, One Battle After Another, is tough to pin down.

Written and directed by Paul Thomas Anderson and co-starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Tiana Taylor, it's about radicals on the run in an America that looks very much like our own.

The movie is politically charged, and it's also spiked with moments of weird humor, anger, and a lot of heart.

I think it's gonna cause all sorts of reactions.

Which makes it a perfect fit for Sean Penn, because the actor is also, in his own way, a kind of provocateur.

He's always willing to stir up strong feelings and make things happen.

He does that in his acting, of course.