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And I thought it was very interesting and moving that you were aware in 1995 or whenever that was that like, oh, this is a special time for these reasons.

And I wonder if you have any similar awareness about where you are now at 67 or are able to articulate what it is that is good about your life in this moment.

That's George Saunders.

His new novel, Vigil, will be out January 27th.

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I'm David Marchese, and this is The Interview from The New York Times.

From The New York Times, this is The Interview.

I'm David Marchese.

The writer, lawyer, and human rights activist Raja Shahadeh, who's 74, has spent most of his life living in Ramallah, a city in the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

Since he was a much younger man, he's been writing about what it's been like for him and other Palestinians to live under Israeli occupation.

That work, which is defined by precise description and powerfully measured emotion, has won him widespread acclaim.

His 2007 book, Palestinian Walks, Forays into a Vanishing Landscape, won Britain's Orwell Prize for political writing.