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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Could a secret CIA team have conspired to destroy the chances of England's football team?

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And could that secret have been kept until now?

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Or does it belong in the world of conspiracy theories?

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

Well, welcome to The Rest Is Classified.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

I'm David McCloskey.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And I'm Gordon Carrera.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

And we are in the second and final part of our exploration of, as Gordon has written in my notes, one of the darkest claims we have ever looked at on the show, which is the idea that the Central Intelligence Agency might have poisoned, might have poisoned Gordon.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

England's goalkeeper during the 1970 World Cup.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

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The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

I do think you're spot on, Gabriel, in kind of focusing on the quality of the source.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

As I was reading your investigation,

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

You know, I was thinking about the sourcing chain from the lens of an intelligence officer and thinking that this is, okay, this is essentially fourth-hand information, which obviously increases the likelihood that something has been garbled in the sourcing chain.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

But ultimately, and frankly, I actually put this question to a couple of case officers who said...

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

If a case officer had confidence in the ultimate source and sort of felt like they could credibly have access to this information, and if it gelled with other reporting, a lot of case officers would want to disseminate this in part because they get more credit for having collected intelligence that gets disseminated.

The Rest Is Classified
165. Why England Didn't Win the 1970 World Cup (Ep 2)

A lot of what we call collection management officers or reports officers would

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