David McCloskey

What do you think we can do?

What do you think, I mean, what are Western security experts saying might be done to repair, if we could use that word or anything close to it, our relations in the Arab world or in the region?

Or is it just, is it so linked to our relationship with Israel that it's not, there's nothing to be done?

What are you hearing?

Yeah.

No, I think that's the spot to end this because that sentiment, my sense is that it's either not understood here or it's wildly sort of underestimated.

Because I think there has been a dramatic shift and...

Unless you're like most Americans are not spending a lot of time in the region, not spending a lot of time thinking about the region, unless we happen to be in one of our various conflicts.

There's not a sense for just how kind of deep that animosity has become in some quarters of the region.

So I think that's, it's really important.

Well, Jamana, thank you so much for joining us to talk about the region broadly.

this amazing report that you and the team at CNN did on Iranian-linked groups recruiting in Europe and targeting Jewish communities.

I think it's just, it's incredibly important reporting that you guys are doing.

And thank you for joining us on the ground for Ruban.

It's really been a pleasure.

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This is going to go on for the entirety of the series, isn't it?

It is, yeah.

He won't relent.

He won't relent.