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David McCloskey

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

But one thing that they absolutely will need is documentation for the diplomats to leave.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And there are different options for this.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

We talked about how even alias American documentation would probably be a bad idea.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

They could all go out on different nationalities

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

But you think about how do you make it credible if they're talking to a border guard or someone at immigration control that this person matches this passport.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And if you have someone who, let's say, the passport says they're German and they don't speak German and the immigration officer can speak a few words in German, you're done.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So this is another, I mean, Canadian angle here makes a lot of sense because they could, it's a North American English language.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

They could all look Canadian.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, from a cover standpoint, no matter what your sort of overall story is and how you backstop it, having Canadian passports in alias is something you're going to want no matter which plan you use.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, Mendez flies to Ottawa in late December with his deputy.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And he goes to meet a Canadian official that he calls Lon Delgado at the US embassy in Ottawa.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And the reason for the trip is to get Canadian passports.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And Gordon, I sense you're going to jump in with some more

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

commentary on Canadian high politics.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And the Canadians do this without any American pressure.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

They just do it.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, by the time Mendez shows up, he's kind of thinking he might have to negotiate with the Canadians over these passports.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And when he's meeting with this official he calls, Lon Delgado, after Mendez explains what he needs, Delgado is like, I think we've already done that.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, he shows Mendez the piece of paper that's got this seal on it and the order in council has already been passed through that closed session of parliament.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

They have the passports.