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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And I think Bendez is pretty surprised by this.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

I think normally there's a bit more of a back and forth between intelligence services over these kind of documents.

The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So the Americans have names, alias names, and photos that they've got of the diplomats that they're going to use to make documents.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

these real Canadian passports, they also get six more passports, backup secondary passports for redundancy.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Because this gets to the detail-oriented nature of the artist validators slash forgers and the document specialists inside the CIA's Office of Technical Service who are going to do this, where

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

If that passport is being carried by one of the houseguests out of Meribat Airport in Tehran, that passport can't look brand new.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

It has to look like there has to be a story behind and stamps and visas in that passport that match their cover story for the persona that they have.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And so, you'd want backups in case you need to be flexible with the kind of documents and visas and stamps that you put inside it.

The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, what Mendez doesn't have, so he's got documents, or at least the beginnings of the documents.

The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He needs a cover story, because who are these people?

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Who are they?

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

If there's six people walking out of Iran or bicycling out on a 300-mile mountain trail in the middle of winter...

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Who are they?

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And what are they doing in Iran?

The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

So, Mendez comes back from this trip to Ottawa.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

He's got the passports.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And he's back in his studio.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

Remember, Mendez is a painter, an artist by training.

The Rest Is Classified
161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And in his memoir, Mendez describes it as this moment of alpha or he's in this kind of right brain creative state and he's having a breakthrough.

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161. Argo: Six Fugitives in Revolutionary Tehran (Ep 2)

And he's been turning over the cover problem.