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David McCloskey

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

would be that you'll lose the agents.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And I'd have to think that there's no incentive on the part of the Fru handlers.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

You don't want to be the handler that loses steak knife.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

That's a career killer all the way up the chain.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

If the guy you have who's providing you with all this great intel on the IRA decides, or you end up getting him killed,

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Because you're trying to save- One person.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Right, but you're trying to save someone who's a member of the IRA.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

You know, you're the fruit handlers.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

You're like, no way, no way.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Do we have any sense from...

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

anything that has come out as part of the canova investigation or otherwise that there was any kind of process inside the fru for thinking through these kind of questions or is that just black box

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

There's a story from Richard O'Rourke's book, Stake Knives, Dirty War, that

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

I think illustrates at kind of the granular human level, the kind of game that Scappaticci is playing.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

And O'Rourke writes, in 1982, markets resident Marion McCullen was working in the kitchens of the five-star Culloden Hotel in Holywood, County Down.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Did I pronounce all of that correctly, Gordon?

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

By the way- I think we'll go with that.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

We'll go with that.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

It's close enough.

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

I should say it's how it looks-

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151. Britain’s Man Inside the IRA: From Spy to Executioner (Ep 3)

Like it should be pronounced.