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David McCloskey

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119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

organized pockets of armed opposition to the regime.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And I think hopefully we'll get more information out of Iran as the internet comes back up and we get some more firsthand accounts.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

But it's hard for me to imagine this many people killed if you didn't have some pockets of true armed resistance.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

to the Iranian regime.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And so maybe we're seeing a potential shift in some parts of Iran or in some pockets of this opposition where you're having people actually picking up weapons and using that to defend themselves, defend protesters, or even just go after the regime.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

So that's another potential parallel.

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119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

Right, right.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And then, you know, Syria also had widespread kind of socioeconomic problems, mass youth unemployment, housing crisis.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

There had been mass internal migration from a drought in the east.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

So you had these kind of

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

big socioeconomic problems, right, that the regime in Syria was incapable of solving.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And I think, you know, here in Iran, we have similar parallels where you just the level of sort of mismanagement and corruption has led to a situation where that socioeconomic contract

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

between the regime and the people has really frayed.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

Also in Syria, you had a regime whose revolutionary institutions had totally decayed and whose legitimacy narrative was really quite weak.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

The most important, quote unquote, political party in Syria in 2011 was the Ba'ath Party.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And regime officials at the time were

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

They were kind of surprised and probably shouldn't have been to see just how hollowed out the thing had become.

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119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I mean, nobody believed in this kind of Assadist Arab nationalist ideology anymore.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

It was just totally hollowed out.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And I think similarly, you know, with Iran today, as we discussed in the last episode, you know, this kind of legitimacy narrative for the Islamic Republic has really weakened.