David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified · 195. How Silicon Valley Took Over National Security · 17 Sep 2026 podcast

It's the same in business. voice-verified

team of business advisors, HP helps businesses of all sizes find technology that fits their needs and budget. voice-verified

Welcome to The Rest is Classified. voice-verified

David McCloskey here. voice-verified

We have a very special bonus episode today on an absolutely wild article that was recently published in the Wall Street Journal, all about the hidden debt that Apple owes the CIA, which voice-verified

immediately got my interest because I love any story about someone owing a debt to the CIA. voice-verified

It is a great story on its own, but it's also a great jumping off point for a much bigger conversation about the intersection of tech and espionage and national security. voice-verified

We are very lucky to have with us today the author of that article and a terrific new book on this topic. voice-verified

And we're also lucky that Gordon is still gone on vacation. voice-verified

So, I am running the show here all by myself. voice-verified

We are joined today by Sharon Weinberger, who has covered the intersection of technology and national security for more than 25 years. voice-verified

She has been the national security editor at the Wall Street Journal and The Intercept. voice-verified

She's the author of wonderful books on DARPA, the Pentagon's very strange weapons program. voice-verified

She is now the editor-in-chief of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. voice-verified

And her new book is called Valley of Death, How Big Tech is Fueling the Future of War. voice-verified

And I have read it. voice-verified

It is absolutely essential reading for people who want to understand what is going on in national security today. voice-verified

So Sharon, thank you so much for being with us today. voice-verified

I want to start with the article because it's this absolutely fascinating story about the CIA saving Steve Jobs' bacon back in the 1980s. voice-verified

So I'm wondering if you could set that story up for those of us who maybe haven't read the article. voice-verified

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