David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified · 195. How Silicon Valley Took Over National Security · 17 Sep 2026 podcast

It's a very forthcoming organization in my experience, right? voice-verified

Yeah, but I knew it voice-verified

Did you think it was true at that time? voice-verified

Or did you think it was this kind of like apocryphal sort of exaggerated made up story? voice-verified

Jobs at this point, what is he doing? voice-verified

We think of the black turtleneck Jobs launching the iPhone, but at this point in time, he's not at Apple, right? voice-verified

He's preparing to return. voice-verified

So what capability do those computers give the U.S. voice-verified

intelligence community and military that they didn't have? voice-verified

I also understand from the article that once they were procured, there were some modifications made to them along the way. voice-verified

Interesting. voice-verified

And then from the other side, what does that contract do for jobs? voice-verified

And why didn't jobs ever thank us for this amazing contract? voice-verified

Do you think Jobs, how did he see it, I guess? voice-verified

I voice-verified

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We're still waiting, Apple. voice-verified

We're still waiting for our thanks. voice-verified

So I want to widen the aperture a little bit and ask you about the dynamic that we're seeing today between Silicon Valley defense tech and the government. voice-verified

Because I think one of the kind of themes of your book is tracking this relationship over time and how the power dynamics have shifted, how the innovation dynamics have shifted. voice-verified

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