David McCloskey

So more emphasis on political activity.

This is a fast-paced, edge-of-your-seat story where you never quite know who to trust or what happens next.

Welcome back.

We are going to dive into some of the individual stories about the people inside the IRA or adjacent to the IRA who sort of found themselves wrapped up in this dirty war.

And I guess one very valuable agent of influence, Gordon, was named Willie Carlin.

So that's kind of- Not your typical MI5 guy, I suppose, in that sense.

This is where the story gets perhaps even more wild and actually winds up

crossing streams with another story we've done because believe it or not, Gordon, you found a way to get Oleg Gordievsky into a story about steak knife and the IRA.

And we did a six-part series on Gordievsky last year, which is fascinating in its own right.

But Gordievsky is the KGB resident in London in the early 1980s.

He is spying for the Brits.

He's spying for MI6.

And Gordievsky has revealed to MI6 that an MI5 officer has offered himself up to the KGB in London.

Now, that officer is a man called Michael Bettany, who's caught after a mole hunt.

But Bettany had been based in Northern Ireland, where his experiences had pushed him toward alcoholism and breakdown, which I guess if you've been listening to the series so far, you would understand after working so close to the troubles.

And Michael Bettany is the handler.

who Carlin, Willie Carlin, had known as Ben.

And then we'll get Kevin Bacon here in a moment.

That can't be right, right?

That he's flown out on- On a private jet.