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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

That's the thing is there's also levels inside that in the besiege, right?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

So there's the people who are, you know, they get the phone call at 10 at night that, hey, we need to go out and put your leather jacket on because you're going to drive your motorcycle around and harass people.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

But your day job is, you know, you're a bricklayer all the way up to more professional elite sort of anti-riot kind of, you know, units, right?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

So there's a wide range even inside an organization like the besiege.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

There's a hierarchy here, and we went through it sort of bottom to top, right?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

The anti-riot, the national police, the law enforcement, command, up to the besiege, up to the IRGC.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

One of the interesting things about this hierarchy

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

series of protests at unrest is, I think, an indicator of how strained the security forces were, was the need to use the IRGC, to use the IRGC's sort of ground forces in anti-riot or sort of protester suppression, right?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Because

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

If you're the regime, you'd prefer to not be using units like that to suppress a protest.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

I mean, this is what the law enforcement command and the besiege are for.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

So I think it's a sign of how, you know, one of the other kind of dynamics that's just, I think, worth elaborating a bit is like how you suppress these kind of uprisings becomes to some degree a resource management problem.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

And you have to think about, okay, you've got a certain number of units that you probably know if you're the Supreme Leader or the people around him, without a shadow of a doubt, will do the things that you need them to do, right?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

Where do you allocate those units?

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

And how do you make sure that you don't put units...

The Rest Is Classified
118. Inside Iran: Can You Predict A Revolution? (Ep 1)

like low-level riot police or besiege who might flee in the face of protesters or armed resistance or not shoot.