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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

Methodically.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

Methodically.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

There was the critique that Jervis levels against the agency afterward.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I think it's correct.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

is that essentially there was a whole bunch of reactive reporting and analysis that was being done

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And there wasn't a kind of step back to look at everything in a methodical way.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And a lot of this information, you know, that frankly is really insightful on the kind of growing strength of the opposition and who's behind it and isn't making it into the hands of, you know, President Carter and the senior advisors around him in this kind of structured and systematic way.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

That's important because it's pretty clear that there was what you call an anchoring bias that was really strong and at play constantly

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

as the CIA is watching events unfold in Iran, which is the Shah is strong and the opposition is weak and divided.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

And you're sort of anchored to that viewpoint until a point well beyond it flips.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I mean, you could make the same case today, right?

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I mean, you could say, well, look,

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

iran's security forces and military are coherent and united and loyal because they have been and the opposition is weak and divided and in even as events sort of shift those things your mental model of the world is stuck in the past right and i think that's that was very clearly the case um

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

in the CIA's analysis on Iran in 1979.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

So you're right.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I mean, it's kind of a classic intelligence failure.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

I'll admit it, Gordon, in that you had bits and pieces of

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

really insightful information kind of scattered throughout the system that weren't pulled together properly.

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

You had critical information that was just missed, right?

The Rest Is Classified
119. Inside Iran: Why Trump Didn’t Intervene (Ep 2)

The Shah is sick.