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David McCloskey

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The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

And there are basically three legs to this piece of furniture.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

One of them is the production of the fissile material.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

That is what most of the Iranian conversation, the public conversation is about.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

It is how much highly enriched uranium at what enrichment level do the Iranians have?

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

So it's the production of the fissile material.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

The second component is weaponization.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

I mean, I'm tempted, Gordon, to have you give us another science lesson about... Yeah, go back to our Klaus Fuchs episodes if you want those.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

Go back to our Klaus Fuchs episodes.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

But you can't just take...

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

a big square of highly enriched uranium and like toss it out of an airplane, right?

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

Yeah.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

It might hit someone on the head.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

If it fell in the water, it might get somebody sick.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

But it's not... You got to turn it into a bomb.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

And that is...

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

work on high explosives, electronics, advanced metallurgy, material science, all of these very specialized kind of areas of study and machining and fabrication to actually create the warhead.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

And then the third component of a weapons program is the delivery mechanism, because that warhead has to be fitted onto something that can then be delivered to your target, and in this case,

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

It's almost certainly a ballistic missile.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

So it's not one site and it's not just the production of the fissile material, which again is where we focus so much of our time and energy publicly.

The Rest Is Classified
147. Will Trump Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Programme? (Ep 2)

Yeah, I think the focus on the production of the fissile material makes some sense because the biggest, most well-known sites are all, I mean, the ones you just read out, Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan, are all involved in the production of the fissile material, the production of the highly enriched uranium that would be necessary to include in a bomb.