David McCloskey

That is going to be some of the context that we'll also bring to the story about what

an operation to go after some of Iran's key nuclear capabilities might look like.

But I think before we get there, Gordon, it makes sense to kind of start at the beginning of Trump 2.0, 2025, because as we said last time, we have this problem.

which is that the Iranians are continuing to enrich uranium.

And this is one of the major issues that confronts the second Trump administration as it's taking office.

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It's not.

And, you know, in preparing for these episodes, I was struck, Gordon, at how even having done

a significant amount of very deep reading on the topic, how it can get very confusing and technical very, very quickly.

Yeah.

And so I think it's important to kind of break out, well, what constitutes a nuclear weapons program?